Hi all. 

I am re-submitting my old pictures, which I uploaded here months/years ago in the hope that they can now be approved owing to the new criteria applied in 1x during the curation process. 

This is the case for my recent "The perfect blood donor" which has been recently published but it was not some months ago.

When I go back to my 1st submission and push the "Delete photo" button an alarm window warns me that "you cannot delete a photo that you sent to curation - it can still be selected for publish or award be the head curation team".

So now, I can't delete my old submission.

Is this new policy (which I disregard so much) definitive? Or is it just a temporary bug in the system?

I don't like having a double copy of my picture in my gallery (one rejected and one published).

What is your opinion about that?

You should be able to delete rejected photos, must be a bug.
I tried it myself with a stone-old rejected picture and had this:

Mike Kreiten PRO

You should be able to delete rejected photos, must be a bug.
I tried it myself with a stone-old rejected picture and had this:

 

 

You can write [email protected],.

Best regards,

Mike

 

Thank you

Photos sent to curation cannot be deleted for a number of reasons.

One is that even if they get "Not selected" status, they can still be selected by Head Curators.

Another is that we need to see what you previously uploaded to enforce the rule to only upload a photo once.

If you need an image deleted for special reasons, contact [email protected] and we will help you.

The second reason is the only reason, I think.

the algorithm is out of control. 😀

Jacob,

The one I tried to delete and where I took the screenshot was uploaded and rejected in 2017, there is no chance this is waiting for head curators approval.

I deleted photos before, and it worked. Now it does not, the ball is in your park.

Really debatable choice.

I have already explained that I am re-submitting my old pictures, which I uploaded here months/years ago (from 2014 to 2019) in the hope that they can now be approved owing to the new criteria applied in 1x during the curation process (it is no wonder visual taste can change widely through years...)

This is a really disreputable news, convincing me even further that 1x is hopelessly turning towards the worse

Same do I, what was rejected years ago was not "awarded" in the sense of curation today. I had them in my portfolio, which is "published" now. So I don't see an issue with posting them again, now that "published" and "awarded" work is shown in our portfolios. I don't consider that double posting a photo. So far almost everything I sent to curation again in the new 1x was published at least. In most cases I even reworked them in advance.

Mike, I fully concur. The old portfolio system was ideal where an image not selected could be deleted and reworked if desired. Today, with just about anything and everything getting  'published', the risk is that dubious 'published' images (with which you later feel emabarrased about), now cannot be deleted. The old metric of being published (awarded today) had some real merit, a sense the body of work was strong. Now however, your visible portfolio is, in effect, being diluted in quality. I have asked for several of my published images to be deleted and have not yet heard a word. This is frustrating. I don't want them on my portfolio because they are in my eyes poor quality. I'm no longer willing to direct people to my 1x page because of this.

Hi Peter,

I cannot understand why you uploaded images to your portfolio which are of poor quality. What about if they had been awarded insted of "only" being published ? Would they then have a better quality ? The quality of an image does not depend on the status "awarded", "published" or "not selected".

By the way, I have recently received several rejections, ie the pictures were not published although (in my opinion) they would have been desirable in my profile for a balanced mix of images for an exhibition.

I don't agree, not anything and everything gets published today, see above.

Cheers, Hans-Martin

Hans, while I accept that Awarded images must stay, I have also wished - as my taste changes/improves - that they too, could also be deleted. It's not that I'm uploaded 'bad' images, a portfolio is dynamic, but here it is static. So, as a half way house, in the 'published'  images at least, these images should imho be allowed to be removed/reworked/improved as the photographer chooses. 

Hello

It has never been possible to delete photos that were rejected until recently when a bug was introduced with the release of the new version of 1x. In classic, rejected images could not be deleted.

This creates a problem for the head curators since some photographers kept uploading the same photos several times and deleted it everytime it was not selected.

Also, images was disappearing from the head curators in the middle of the curation process.

We might however introduce a feature to hide images that are "Not selected" for the photographer (but not for head curators).

Thanks Jacob, this change would be pointless as 'not selected' images are invisible anyway to everyone except the photographer.  

It's the two-tiered system that's the problem, imho. Please allow photographers to at least change their Published shots as they wish,  (they are more or less invisible anyway unless the photographer directs someone to thier page). It's their portfolio, some control should be allowed. 

Of course rejected (non-awarded) photos could be deleted in classic 1x, Jacob. I did that many times, over years, cleaning up my portfolio.

so did I !!

So did I too!

But was not Jacob one of the founders of 1x? How is it possible he forgot that?

Hi Jacob,

I understand what you're saying, but not how this saves time or improves the process. If a curator comes across a photo he or she rejects, fine. There is no objective judging in many cases, so one day it may appear okay, the other day there are so many brilliant works it falls off the cliff. That was the argument formerly why even excellent works may not have been published, others were simply better that day and the number of awarded is limited.

Keeping the history means curators have to go to the portfolio and see if it was posted before. That's pretty time consuming when members have 100 or more photos published... So how does it help? Potentially you find it was posted before, or even multiple times, and then? Would you ban the member for trying? 

In my case they were rejected before there was published & awarded, they were just not published following the classic 1x scheme. Why shouldn't I try to add them to my portfolio again, like they were before, and can be published according to "new 1x" standards?  

Since it does not safe time in curation and as you see, handling of common cases are unclear, why can't we simply delete photos not published, like before - no matter if "classic" or "new" 1x? 

My Profile > Exhibitions > Edit

This allows us to decide what to show and what not to show from our portfolio.

Its absolutely not democratic to not being able to delete pics anymore.. how your portfoilo looks should be at the descretion of the author and not the website. If authors posting same images after getting rejected is a problem then there should be some alternate arrangements for it. 
as such creating published and awarded catagory has diluted the whole essence of what 1x used to be in past. Now it is just like any other website you come across. 
hope the delete button starts serving its purpose and photographers themselves can decide what to show in portfolio like the classic days. 
and seriously, bring back the classic 1x. The new 1x is just boring. 

My Profile > Exhibitions > Edit

Perhaps a tutorial on the possibilities of "exhibitions" could be useful.

It is a sad road the 1x site took the last few years. The community and the forums are more and more falling apart, the curation process is watered down and full of technical problems. Now the ownership over the portfolios is questioned. The owner of a portfolio should be the photographer and not the website. I understand the necessity to disable the delete button during the curation process, but I want to be able to delete my photos afterwards when they are not selected. It is simply not true that this was impossible in the classic 1x site, I did this many times over the last few years, and I urge the 1X founders to go back to the old and perfectly functioning process of classic 1x.

What keeps me a member of 1x and what I enjoy currently the most is the magazine. I want to thank the editorial team for their continuous engagement and their superb work. This is more or less the only feature that is left from the old 1x feeling and still keeps me onboard.

That's not the only thing, Jan. The critique forum is also maintained and attracts some members...

I'm convinced some partner shops also take "published" photos in portfolio, like e.g. fineartamerica.com. If we then delete our "only published" this causes issues.

That's the downside, the positive is more gets offered and potentially sold. In case we're interested in selling, of course.

Still I was more a fan of the "classic" 1x. I understand there was a need to adapt to newer devices, mainly tablets, since more people have that as an alternative to a PC. I think every serious photogapher still has a PC or iMac for post, so whether that really makes sense, I can't judge. Probably the management of ths site will have statostics in how (or from  which devices) the site gets used.

Please note that the portfolio only shows published and awarded photos. The only people that can see the "Not selected" are the photographer (to keep track of what is already uploaded before but not selected) and the head curators. 

Like mentioned in this thread you have full control to decide what you show on your profile with customised exhibitions. 

Regards

Jacob

Hello all,

We will bring back the feature to delete "Not selected" photos. I expect to have the code ready and deployed by the end of this day. However, keep in mind that by deleting "Not selected" photos directly after it has finished curation, you will lose the possibility of having the decision by member curators overridden by head curators. My advice is to wait a week or two before deleting them but it will be entirely up to you. 

It is still only permitted to post the same image (without improvements) once so only upload the same image again if you made considerable changes that warrant a new curation session.

Regards

Jacob

Hi Jacob,

really happy to read that. i find this feature completely in line with the policty adopted by 1x since its foundation.

Thank you very much, Jacob, highly appreciated you changed mind.

The possibility to delete is now live again. It works for any photo "Not selected". For "Published" or "Awarded" you need to contact [email protected] for deletion as before. 

Thanks for voicing your opinions and be sure that we always listen. 

Good light

Jacob

Hello everyone. One small observation...when uploading new photos, copyrights are missing (name in the lower left corner and 1X character in the upper right). So far it has worked...

Regards, Peter

Hello

The copyright protection is added when the image is published or awarded.

Regards

Jacob

Hi, Jacob. Thanks for the reply but not sure it works. I see published and awarded photos without copyright.

I see them on all photos on your profile.

Regards

Jacob

Hello.

In Peter's photos I see some without copyright and most without watermark. As for mine, I think they are all missing.

Regards.

They should now all have watermarks.

I will look to see why it wasn't added automatically for older photos.

Regards

Jacob

Thank you so much, Jacob, for your decision.

I will follow your wise advice and wait at least two weeks before deleting the non selected photos, if I so decide.

Best regards and good light,

Francesco

Thank you very much Jacob, for your highly appreciated decision.

Regards

Jan