I noticed  something stranges during the currotionproces of my photos. It starts between the 70 and 99 % untill the proces is about halfway through, and then suddenly,  plummed to 1 to 3 %. There are also nice curration comments. This applies to the last 5 submitted photoos. That my photoos are not  published, ok,  but that the last 5 photoos have almost exactly the same curration?

I have the same "problem".

i see a large gap between the the percentage of member curator likes and expert curator likes, it seems there is a large knowledge gap between two. 

The short comments you see are almost certainly bots. Best to ignore those comments.

Cheers

Hi,

exactly the same for me. It's all starting to seem very implausible and not "fair"!!!

BR, Stefan

hi, 

There seems to be something weird about the curation process. For example the expert curators give 94% to one of my pic while the member curators give only 25%, that is a wide gap, another example 30% by member curators and 93% by experts curators, another one , 15% by member curators and 82% by expert curators,  another one, 3% by member curators and 59% by expert curators, another one, 24% by member curators and 93% by expert curators, another one, 19% by member curators and 93% by expert curators. All these pics mentioned above got published except one.  This large difference gives rise to a feeling that i am getting robbed of my awards.  Sometimes the curation percentage plummets suddenly from 100% to 1% as if some switch has been flipped. There seems to be an issue with comments as well, for example one of my pics got two commets first  ''A well and nice image captured with nice subject and good colors/tones and lovely lights". second "Street nonsense = the picture is a little banal in content and casual in timimg; as a consequence, it adds nothing to my personal experience of daily life in street".

Photographers post their pics here to get a positive feedback, so that they may improve their photography, but using words like "nonsense" is being uncivil. We have to remember that views about photographs are subjective as well, apart from the  technical aspect.

Rajkumar koul

I agree and you are totally right, when you say that seeing photography is subjective but so is the technical quality, because there are many examples where breaking the rules is not important, what matters is conveying something. But not all of us have the same eyes or the same vision of things. We have to remember always.

I have also observed that images sometimes start at 100% and then suddenly go down so much that they are not published. Yesterday evening or this morning at 12:30 a.m. a picture of mine was still at 77% and at 7:30 it was only at 40%. It should have been through curation for a long time now and it continues to deteriorate. Very strange.

I have also seen some abnoramalities in the process. However I don't see any responses in this forum. So why bother asking?

Hi,

I have another curiosity to report.

Yesterday, a photo of mine with approx. 20% did not go through. 

Last week I had a photo with 4 times 1% and it was awarded.

Can someone explain this to me?

Thx, Stefan

Hi,

user curation is a kind of occupational therapy. If your photo has achieved a sufficient number of points, the official curators (head curators) decide on the further fate of your picture. If a photo has been rated poorly by users, you have to be lucky that a head curator will look at it anyway and then decide on his own. Unfortunately, many good pictures are lost because the head curators don't have all the time in the world.

Greetings

Udo

Hi Udo Dittmann ,

thanks the explanation. Now I understand it a little more, but of course it doesn't make it any more transparent. So in the end it all depends on the judgement of the head curators ... so it's also a kind of gamble, up to a point of course.

OK, there's room for improvement, I'd say. Above all, many people lack transparency here!

Well, thank you and have a nice weekend!

BR, Stefan

Well, whenever people make decisions, they are individual decisions. There is no such thing as a purely objective decision that is transparent for everyone and supported by everyone. If the curators looked at every picture, I would be satisfied. On the other hand, I don't think much of users making decisions, especially as there are too many jokers.

WOW a lot of people are talking about the same thing and I find it unreal how you only get 1% on a photo that I find looks amazing but yet looking over some of the images that get awarded I think to myself that shouldn't have been awarded. I would really like to know how images get looked at. 

I think I can see a pattern here that I have seen in other platforms. Join up pay up. First couple of Images get excepted, You think great.

Then you post a few more. Nothing.  Every now and again they will throw you a bone to keep you Interested. 

You have a wee pie chart tells you what is liked and Area's of improvement. Light seems to be the button of choice by members.

Fair enough your opion but Explain what is wrong with the light ??  Technical abillity, again Explain. 

If you don't like an Image thats all well and good. But it Doesn't make it a bad one. 

Hi Colin,

If you want to get honest and well-founded help with a photo, it's best to post your request here:

Greetings

Udo

Udo Dittmann PRO

Colin Bamford PRO

You have a wee pie chart tells you what is liked and Area's of improvement. Light seems to be the button of choice by members.Fair enough your opion but Explain what is wrong with the light ??  Technical abillity, again Explain. 

Hi Colin,

 

If you want to get honest and well-founded help with a photo, it's best to post your request here:

 

 

Greetings

Udo

Udo Thank you very much my friend, But I am thinking I should have listened to my peirs. The people I was taught from. I went against my beliefs on photography. This isn't anger or frustration of getting an Image rejected but I think like everything else photography styles and thoughts have moved on. There are some really fine photographers in this platforum some really great ones. In my 30 or so years photographing I have had a small but reletive successful time. I am no glory hunter or crave the awards. But I find this could be rather discouraging for many a young photographer getting on.

 I look at some images that have been selected and wonder why ??.  I have watched this site as a free member for a couple of years and thought some high class stuff. But when you are actually in amongst it. Or maybe the level of expectation is dropping. 

 Now before people get off their high horses here its not aimed at anyone or any perticular selection of style.

I maybe think this isn't the place for myself as I say I was taught that Photography isn't a Competition, isn't a race and who are others to tell us what is right and what is wrong. Rules of composition don't always work to make the best Image. As they say sometimes they have to be disregarded. 

 Photography is an expression of what you see. The Photographer view of the subject. 

"No Man has the right to dictate what other men persieve. All should be encouraged to reveal themselves, Their perceptions and emotions and to build confidence in a creative spirit." - Ansel Adams

Critique is just one mans opion and who is to say he is right. I have tried it don't like it because we should be encouraging photographers especially in this day and age of Ai 

Hello Colin,

Well said. Yes, it is discouraging at times, especially during a long run of unpublished images. However, it's also the premise on which this site has been created - not all photos will be published. If they were, it would just be another 500px, instagram, or similar. I doubt there is a photographer who uses this site that hasn't experienced frustration and the "mine was better than some to the crap that gets published" feeling after an image fails in curation. I have a cheering gallery of family and friends who appreciate what I've done with my photos, but also remind me that I've improved significantly since joining this site. Some of the improvement can be attributed to learning more about the editing software I use, but I feel at least an equal amount has come from viewing (and curating) the work of other photographers here, seeing how they've taken similar compositions/locations and what they've done with them. Though the curation process lacks transparency and often feels unfair, it also challenges me to continue improving my eye, technique, and editing. What would be nice is if there was greater encouragement for those curating to, instead of just clicking "Publish" or "Reject" and possibly adding the strongest and weakest areas of the image, add CONSTRUCTIVE comments/suggestions so the photographer look at potential ways of improving either that image for resubmission and/or their future work.

Regards,

Mark

Hi Mark yes maybe it is a lack of transparency and what exactly when people press a button on what they like or dislike. Yes an explanation should be given. 

You can't just click a button for the sake of it. This need in the section to start alteing other peoples work and the love of certain softwares ( NIK ) seems to be a bit annoying. At the end of the day They weren't stood behind the camera at the time. They Didn't rise at an ungodly hour and spend the best part of 2hours driving to a location for the Image or climb that mountain. A small amount of advice and encouragement yes. Critique by a person who photographs Buildings on a landscape photographers work isn't a good thing. As I said you may not like the image but it doesn't make it a bad image. 

All the Best 

Colin