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https://1x.com/photo/2286682/useroverview/139825
the first one photo 2566475. AWARDED
the second photo 2286682 published
what's the difference ????
same problème occurs with PUBLISHED or REJECTED ...
Sorry, but I cannot understand any more the selection of admitted/not admitted or awarded/not awarded pictures ?????
regards Anna
Anna,
Yes, it is confusing. 'Published' means that the photo will appear in your gallery and in the 'Published' gallery on the 1X front page. It may also be selected by the Head Curators for the 'Awarded' gallery. This second step can take several days.
Here is the information from the FAQ section . . . .
Hi Steven, thank you very much for your reply ... but I think I didn't explain very well what I mean :-))) Member since several years, I knew the procedure (I would sauy approximately). What I wanted to explain was that I don't understand the choice made by curators. If you have a look on the 2 pictures where I sent the link, 2 pictures nearly identic (why one of them is awarded the other not, why two similars (or nearly identics pictures one of them is published the other one rejected). I just dont understand the choice of expert curators ... thank you anyway for your reply ... kind regards from France !!!
I am curious about this Community of photographers.
How many photographers are in this community?
How many submissions on average Daily?
How many Published on Average Daily?
How many Awared on Average Daily?
This is a community of mainly photographers, I assume. It is a closed community in which you must register to participate.
The questions of curating, publishing and awarding keep coming up in the Forum and it seems to me that the desire for precision is misunderstood.
If one submits a photo to the community and it is "judged" there is statistically a scatter around a mean of some sort. The community members vote with curation and then the "Expert" Curators validate? the votes and then even more "expert" more "Senior" cuartors award the image. Statisitcs, Style and Bias are the variables.
Those of us who express disappointment (ie not selected, not to be confused with subimitting bad photographs) in this process should realize that this is ultimately a subjective process and more inputs makes the result more close to the standard, so how many submissions?. Addionally the stadard is upheld in this community and has an inelastic (to borrow from Economics) "style" but generally good. Technical proficiency may be the first bar (but when I curate I don't get a large enough image to be real picky. Maybe that is why so many blurry photos are chosen. More likely it is an accpted style). Subdividing by category might or might not make decisions better.
Bias is part of subjective judging and cannot be eliminated unless we use an AI program (which has been suggested).
I think this discussion is valid but the numbers of members, particiaption, and submissions would put this in perspective for those who question the
Fairness of the system.
Hi William,
nothing easier than answering these two questions:
Move the cursor to the left, a bar opens, go to "Members" and click.
Then scroll down to the bottom. You'll see that at this moment 1x has about 5.000 members (see attached iamge).
Answer to your second question: Go to the awarded photos page at a certain time of the day. Make a note of the last featured image. Then repeat this the next day at the same time. Count the number of awarded photos from the most recent until you find the photo from the previous day.
Some time ago the number of awarded images was between 60 and 80 per day.
Good light, Hans-Martin
Hi William,
nothing easier than answering these two questions:
Move the cursor to the left, a bar opens, go to "Members" and click.
Then scroll down to the bottom. You'll see that at this moment 1x has about 5.000 members (see attached iamge).
Answer to your second question: Go to the awarded photos page at a certain time of the day. Make a note of the last featured image. Then repeat this the next day at the same time. Count the number of awarded photos from the most recent until you find the photo from the previous day.
Some time ago the number of awarded images was between 60 and 80 per day.
Good light, Hans-Martin
Hans-Martin, that is helpful. 5,000 is a relatively small number compared to Flickr I suppose. But is actually a nice number of members not to be swamped with annonymity. But also a relatively small number to define universal benchmark but easy to achieve a local statistical benchmark or style. I suppose that the members have "favorites" or "familiars" and can get to know each others work in a way; I certainly recognize different names and avoid being snarky for that reason, glad I have! This seems to resemble a fairly large Photo Club with much commaradarie and familiarity. And it is pleasant for most of us.
The other statistics that would be useful would be the number of submissions and the rate or number of Published.
(I assume (conditionally) that the older members have a higher number of published works because of longevity in the club).
The pitfall would eventually be that the newer (more adventuresome?) artists might be fighting a traditional benchmark. But that is not necessarily unfair but could stifle new artists and creativity.
Knowing the number of votes for your submission may help dampend feelings of unfair rejection. 4% of 100 may be different from 4% of 4000, a bigger denominator would hew closer to a stistical endpoint and thus be more convincing about collective decisions.
Wow! Only 5,000 users!!! Are those 5000 paid subscribers or also including free accounts! That is such a small number! I had no idea! No wonder so many photos are being rejected when you have such a small pool of users and a lot of them are into architectural photography, lansdcape, portraits, nudes and creative edits. So how many members out of that 5000 does that leave who are into wildlife and nature photographers ? I just looked up flickr's numbers and it says Number of monthly users: over 60 million monthly users. Total number of users: over 112 million. Number of countries users come from: 72 countries. and since 500px was launched in 2009, it's built up an enthusiastic community of 18 million users across 190 countries.!!!
Wow! Only 5,000 users!!! Are those 5000 paid subscribers or also including free accounts! That is such a small number! I had no idea! No wonder so many photos are being rejected when you have such a small pool of users and a lot of them are into architectural photography, lansdcape, portraits, nudes and creative edits. So how many members out of that 5000 does that leave who are into wildlife and nature photographers ? I just looked up flickr's numbers and it says Number of monthly users: over 60 million monthly users. Total number of users: over 112 million. Number of countries users come from: 72 countries. and since 500px was launched in 2009, it's built up an enthusiastic community of 18 million users across 190 countries.!!!
I think it's even less "active" users, Lucie. If you do scrol down on the ranking of published photos, the list stops at:
There may be profiles, as you said, which exist but without activity.
The small number of participants in this community might be either a good thing, more cohesive, less commercial etc or it could be a sign of fragility. There is a relatively compact group of people that do critiques, comments in the forum and paricipate in other ways. I have gotten to know the names of quite a few "regulars". A lot of the work is done, I suppose, by volunteers. If the project is healthy we are in a Goldilocks position. If not then the "Regulars" should be willing to help promote the site. I mention this site to all photographers that I know but there is not much interest in "online" sites in our local photo club, let alone a "Pay" site.
If this site is struggling then the "stakeholders" should be aware and help do something. If not we should be happy that we have a smallish dedicated group that produces such good work.
Hi Steven, thank you very much for your reply ... but I think I didn't explain very well what I mean :-))) Member since several years, I knew the procedure (I would sauy approximately). What I wanted to explain was that I don't understand the choice made by curators. If you have a look on the 2 pictures where I sent the link, 2 pictures nearly identic (why one of them is awarded the other not, why two similars (or nearly identics pictures one of them is published the other one rejected). I just dont understand the choice of expert curators ... thank you anyway for your reply ... kind regards from France !!!
I also experienced the same thing. The photos, location and time of taking were the same, even the tone and angle were the same, but the result was 1 in publication, 1 was not selected. Very confusing.
Recent history.
I know it's all about my lack of ability.
But I'm not getting published at all.
I haven't changed my style that much, but I wonder why.
In parallel, I've been asking myself, 'So will I get published? That's how you get an award?" Some of them I think.
But I trust the curators and ask a lot of questions.
It's a bit heartbreaking, though.
Hi William,
nothing easier than answering these two questions:
Move the cursor to the left, a bar opens, go to "Members" and click.
Then scroll down to the bottom. You'll see that at this moment 1x has about 5.000 members (see attached iamge).
Answer to your second question: Go to the awarded photos page at a certain time of the day. Make a note of the last featured image. Then repeat this the next day at the same time. Count the number of awarded photos from the most recent until you find the photo from the previous day.
Some time ago the number of awarded images was between 60 and 80 per day.
Good light, Hans-Martin
The total number of members cannot be around 5000. In the main curation page just now it says: You are ranked #*** out of 14599. So just now there are 14599 curating members. The number you get scrolling down in the members page is just the number of paying members who are entitled to upload photos for curation. With a free membership, if I understand correctly, you can still curate other members’ photos, although you are not allowed to submit your own.
To clarify for those curious about membership, per 1X "[t]o be visible on the members list you need to be a PRO member..."
