Hello.

This photograph has received a 0% curation. And while it is true that I do not consider it to be a masterpiece, I do not understand why the members and the critics team have decided that this is the score awarded.

I would like to receive criticism as to why they believe that this is so, perhaps I am not able to see it that way and some of you can open my eyes so that I can continue growing and learning to look at the images.

I don't know if it's because of technical quality, composition or message that you didn't like this shot.

Thanks for your time.

Welcome to " The Real Critique " -  I just don't know what to say Miguel - A few days ago the founders were adjusting the level of the bar in Selection to improve the quality of the images getting published - I had one image in selection at the time then this happened - My score was 99% - 99% at around 80% through selection - When it finished the score was 28% - 0% and I had a rejected image on my hands.

This could have been what happened to your fine image I just don't know. That said lets take a long look at " The Scape " 

I find composition ok good balance and I can see your thoughts behind this image. - I find the subject matter a little low on impact but leaning towards Fine Art maybe. - I have had your image back into Photoshop but came up blank with anything new. If I had to mark your image old school out of thirty points it would be 19 / 30 just to give you some idea off the mark this is in my view - That said it's not a 0% in a month of Sundays - I hope this helps.

Miguel you have 22 good looking published images I see in your porfile - So you know the high standard required - Lift up your heart and go back with all your best images and show them what you are made of. ...

Miguel,

Thanks for posting the photo here in Critique, and for the story of how it was judged in Curation.  Daniel pointed out that the algorithm was recently adjusted.  There's been some discussion of that in the Forums.  I've had the same experience - having what I consider a pretty good picture come back with 0%.  It's discouraging.  I remind myself that the voters are not a cross-section of humanity.  Presumably they are all photographers.  How much time they spend looking at an image is unknown.  How many have voted is also unknown.  What level of skill and experience do they have?   And then there's the mysterious algorithm that apparently gives more weight to some votes than to others, depending on how accurately voters guess what the Head Curators will like.  I guess my point is to suggest that you don't take the percentages too seriously until the algorithm adjustments are done.

 I see two means of transportation - land and sea - one going left, the other right.  They're divided by a tall pole.  There's a repetition of triangles - in the boat's rigging, the rope on the pole, and the bicycle frame.  The dappled sunlight and crashing waves add interest.  The details are sharp, and the black and white tones are good.  Technical details are fine.  The horizon is level and on the 'thirds' position.  I think what's missing is a title to guide viewers to the theme you want the photo to express. 

. . . . Steven, senior critic

Sorry, Miguel, I missed seeing the title,  'The Scape'.   I'm guessing that refers to 'escape' and now the photo has a story.   

Hi Miguel...@ Thank you for showing this photo entitled "The scape" in the criticism forum. I have seen and observed your work, I have also read your writing as an introduction to this photo, besides that I have also read all the reviews that have been given by my two colleagues. I feel that what you wrote/complained about has been well answered by my two colleagues, so I don't have any additions in my mind. In this forum I will only slightly answer/share with you, to fulfill what you expect..."I want to accept criticism......." In this case I want to reduce the meaning of the word "criticism" I will replace it with the word "criticism". my "share". I totally agree with what Daniel said, you have an interesting collection of photographs. I do the work/take the time to be present on the curate forums, and I believe I've done a lot of "click favorites" on your photos even though I certainly wouldn't have known you at the time, so...to be honest I like what you've done do it as a work of photography...@ This time in your photo "Scape" I want to "share" a little with you. After I saw your work, I feel (personal sense) this photo can also be included in the category of landscape photos. But for what I feel... I feel that the subject of "bike" is the focus of attention (POI) in this photo, even though I also see another subject in the distance (for me... this silence actually makes my attention break... a little bother). But in this case, of course I will "disturb the content of your story"...I'm sorry...@So for that, I've done a bit of testing with the aim of being able to share with you, but with a note later what you decide to stay "I will appreciate". I have cropped the top side of the photo to remove the sky (which appears flat/cloudless) and the subject in that part (unclear shape), with this cropping I want to make the POI more focused + of course the pole view feels very supportive where the subject is bicycle leaning, the next step I use a 16x9 frame format ... I chose the shape of the appearance of the foam waves as a background support for the composition of this photo. That's what I've done...hopefully this can represent the desire to share with you...Please enjoy...@Thank you again for the opportunity and best wishes to you...Johanes Januar -- SC

Dear Miguel,

I'll keep it crisp and short because you had three reviews already. 

I think your photo has a few flaws. One is it's tilted, pole and horizon are misaligned. Then you have a good portion of grain on your foreground. Th emost significant downside is your light. The spray of your wave and the sun on the pole are the brightest elements, and totally distract from the other subjects. I also find, not a photographic concern, the bike isn't really a classy version of folfing bike, the shape of ot frame tells it's a remake, the "vintage" sign doesn't make it better. I don't think it's really story-telling, there is no connection between bike and boat. I'm not sure what you see in this photo, probaby more than I do, but that's what we're here for. We are the other pair of eyes just telling what we see. 

Potential to improve would be using a reflector to highlight your bike, avoid the spray of your wave (reducing elements), pulling bike and boat together with a longer focal length. Fixing in post I don't see much potential in.

Best regards,

Mike - senior critic

Gracias Daniel, por tu tiempo en esta toma. 
No tengo problema ni me desanima en absoluto, las críticas negativas sobre una de mis imágenes, 
es más, me motiva probablemente, quizás más que cuando alguien dice que le gusta es... 

Lo que estoy tratando de hacer aquí es aprender a no mirar mi ego... 

Gracias por su apoyo. Un fuerte abrazo.

Hola Steven.
 Gracias por comentar esta foto. 
Es curioso ver como según cada uno vemos una cosa en la vida y también en las imágenes. 

Estoy tratando de aprender, pero me intriga mucho como puede haber opiniones tan dispares. 
de gente que sabe algo de fotografía.

 Así como se premia una imagen y no veo nada ahí y otras son un desastre como es el caso de esta toma 
para algunos compañeros críticos y expertos del jurado. 

Seguro que es mi cosa que no se como hay que mirar y entender la fotografía 
para discernir entre lo bueno y lo malo....así que seguiré intentando aprender....

Un abrazo y muchas gracias de nuevo

Johanes enero PRO

Hola miguel...@Gracias por mostrar esta foto titulada "El escape" en el foro de críticas. He visto y observado tu trabajo, también he leído tu escrito como introducción a esta foto, además de eso también he leído todas las reseñas que me han dado mis dos colegas. Siento que lo que escribiste/te quejaste ha sido bien respondido por mis dos colegas, así que no tengo ninguna adición en mente. En este foro solo responderé/compartiré un poco contigo, para cumplir con lo que esperas..."Quiero aceptar críticas......." En este caso quiero reducir el significado de la palabra "crítica" Lo reemplazaré con la palabra "crítica". mi parte". Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con lo que dijo Daniel, tienes una interesante colección de fotografías. Hago el trabajo/tomo el tiempo para estar presente en los foros curate,fotografía...@ Esta vez en tu foto "Scape" quiero "compartir" un poco contigo. Después de ver tu trabajo, siento (sentido personal) que esta foto también se puede incluir en la categoría de fotos de paisajes. Pero por lo que siento... siento que el tema de la "bicicleta" es el foco de atención (POI) en esta foto, aunque también veo otro sujeto a lo lejos (para mí... este silencio realmente hace que mi interrupción de la atención... un poco de molestia). Pero en este caso, por supuesto que "perturbaré el contenido de su historia"... Lo siento... @Entoncespor eso, he hecho un poco de prueba con el objetivo de poder compartir con ustedes, pero con una nota más adelante lo que decida quedarse "se lo agradeceré". Recorté la parte superior de la foto para eliminar el cielo (que parece plano/sin nubes) y el sujeto en esa parte (forma poco clara), con este recorte quiero hacer que el PDI esté más enfocado + por supuesto, la vista del polo se siente muy de apoyo donde el sujeto está inclinado en bicicleta, el siguiente paso utilizo un formato de marco de 16x9... Elegí la forma de la aparición de las ondas de espuma como soporte de fondo para la composición de esta foto. Eso es lo que he hecho... espero que esto pueda representar el deseo de compartir con ustedes... Disfruten...@Gracias de nuevo por la oportunidad y mis mejores deseos para ustedes...Johanes Januar -- SC

 

Thank you Johanes for your time and trouble to look at this shot.I appreciate the words and comments on the subject.A hug.

Gracias por tu reseña Mike.

 Seguiré practicando para mejorar mis tomas y hacerlas mejores y espero recibir tus críticas en el futuro. 

Sé que la foto no es un prodigio, pero realmente te parece 0??? ?

Si cada crítico dice una cosa y es contradictoria, ¿a quién escucharías????

Gracias de nuevo y un fuerte abrazo Mike.

Dear Miguel,

Thank you for your kind reply. I was concentrating on what I perceived photographic flaws, I did not say the photo is good or bad. I avoid to rate or judge, that's not what this forum is about. There are methods to lead your viewer to a subject, selective sharpness, brightness, the framing in hot spots within a photo, leading lines, also colours, to name the most common ones. I found you missed out on a few possibilities to do so. And if you want to convey a message or story, I think it's of high value to have multiple opinions whether that works or not. These may differ, because we are all individuals and see and feel things differently. Who you should listen to? Well, you could make that decision many ways. The best is to try out things and trust your own feeling. Another way could be to see who's work attracts you most, so you have a direction to follow. I can't tell, that's really up to you.

Hope to see more of your work here and you enjoyed the interaction,

Mike - senior critic

Welcome Miguel,

Thanks a lot for sharing your photo for feedback and comments.

You don't even know how much I understand you, many of us experience similar disappointments over the non-publication of the photo. Welcome to the club :-) But let's look at it from a different angle. I spend a lot of time looking at the photos that have been shaken through the sieve and I look for what I don't have in them or I need to correct them. It is similar to photographing one scene in multiple places, so far I am photographing it and it will be appropriate not only for me.

Each photo has emotions that often prevail over the image others see. But emotions are needed because they always show through the picture. But now a few words about your picture. Before writing these words, I looked at them many times, came back and wondered if I would change anything about it. I conclude that no. For me, a bicycle corresponds perfectly with a boat. The bicycle - facing away from the flowing boat - as if signals divergence, a tear may run away. Even the position of the frame corresponds to the deck of the boat raised in the wave. For me, the message is both strong and clear. You captured the moment. I believe there is potential in this photo. It's good, I think since you showed it here, you also feel it has power. Like Senior Critics, I have viewed your portfolio and I think it certainly does not differ from the published ones.

For sure what you can do is keep going and publish photos for sure you have many good ones waiting to be downloaded! Head's up :-)

Regards, Slawomir Kowalczyk