Hi,

I'm a Fujifilm fan and I think it would be interesting to read some of your opinions about this release:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/s/finepix_hs10/

Thanks!

Hello Dino,
beside a sony alpha 700 I use a FujiFinePix fs100s. This fs 100 s is shurely no comparisin to the hs10 due to the different sensor and technique.
According to the fs100s the difference to a DSLR is enormous. Especially chromatic aberations and noise are problems of that camera. Even less high ISO situations are to behandled carefully.
When You know about this issues, you can deal with them. Advantages are the flexibility and the easy way to use and handle. Especially for street shots it is a useful and practical camera.
cheers Christoph

Hi, the " Fujiman " on a Photomess told me something about a cooperation bewtween Fuji and Olympus ( I asked him for a follwoer for my Fuji S5 Pro). So, I think there will be 4/3 - stuff in the pipeline. It´s a great pitty that Fujifilm have gave up there DSLR- abilities. The Hs10 is a "dazzler", 30x Zoom are making lazy ,), it´s more a Photo- MP, a mass product, all in one, I don´t like that concept..
Regards, G.

Speaking of Fuji, and echoing another post I did recently I am disappointed they have given up the super CCD technology (at least it seems so). It was very promising, especially in the purpose of having wider dynamic and competing with film for that purpose. the super CCD on Fuji S3/S5 is supposed to gain about 2 f-stop compared to regular sensor. But it was merely for highlights and I guess especially developed for wedding purpose (I have a S5, don't do wedding and very happy with it though)... and it was more than 5 years ago now, small sensor of 6MP (12M photosites)... I believe that such technology properly developed on FF sensor could come up in a a 20 f-stop dynamic range or so - which is still a limitation for most up-to-date sensors on latest pro camera.

Hi Christoph,

I also use a FinePix S 100 FS and I understand some of the problems you are talking about; I believe it's a camera that needs (very) good lighting conditions in order to operate properly.

Yesterday for instance I was imprudent and I shot in cloudy weather at ISO 800 because I had enough of the ISO 100 I always use... almost all of the pictures are useless... except the ones where I enabled the forced flash... I think not even a tripod had been a solution...

Of course I was so stupid to forget why I previously gave up higher ISO numbers, and why I had this habit of cautious ISO settings...

The problem is: I love low light shots and this is where the S 100 FS seems to fail (or I don't know how to properly set it...)

On the contrary the new HS 10 promises a BSI CMOS sensor with outstanding results in low light situations: also it seems that the new camera automatically takes low ISO and high ISO shots of the same image (looks like a bracketing system to me) and combines them into the very camera to obtain an extremely low noise image...

Sounds good, but I don't know if Fuji has also solved the problem of the color aberrations you mention; strangely, after reading your opinion, I seem to seen color distortions in more great quantity in my pictures, than I've noticed before...

Christoph, thanks for your time and for your valuable remarks!

Friendly, Dinu

Hi Groucho,

Very good point, I think:


Of course you are absolutely right - I can also understand this (I hope I really do), still I can only imagine what inaccessible details would become available with such an incredible magnifying factor...

Yet I quite don't understand what would be the equivalent in terms of zoom and cost of a Nikkor lens (let's say a 18- 200mm for instance)...
And let's not forget about the quality criteria, because I suspect there are also other factors in order to compare lenses...


This is also true, I believe there is a customer type targeted here... Yet, that all in one you mention, of course means it's a less professional product, a less specialized to a type of photography - but it could also signify a more versatile camera: let's say street, nature, architecture, portrait, etc. all possible with only one camera. Of course the overall image quality might be somehow lower...
Still the question remains: significantly lower or not ?

Thanks a lot for your interesting opinions !

Friendly, Dinu

Hi Jacques,

My first cameras were on film, and when I switched to digital I looked for a camera that produced images that could re create that feeling; this is why I went for the Film Simulation (FS) Fujifilm camera...


An interesting observation in order to understand the parallelism between digital an film; didn't know that, but it might be one of the characteristics that help define possible similarities between the electronic images and the chemical produced ones...

As you said, it seems Fuji has stopped the super CCD project, but now they came with this back side illumination (BSI) sensor which looks like a very promising innovation... And it also seems it is a CMOS, which I think is great for the image quality...

Moreover, the new HS Fujifilm promises to provide capabilities of composing panoramas and vertoramas right into the camera itself, without requesting any post processing skills... Is this awesome, is it only a good thing, or is it bad ? I do not know what to say... Because, there are phones capable of doing this, but as far as I know the serious DSLRs do not implement such a feature...Or they do? Never heard about, until now...

Thanks for your time and for your expertise on the matter.

Amicalement, Dinu

Dinu,

First and foremost I am no expert... :))
... I don't really know about this or this function to be great or not. I think it depends on the woman/man behind the viewfinder. I think the best thing is to have few key features on board the system (camera+lens+whatever accessories) that fits your requirement as a photographer. Stick to it and learn to use it well. Today's camera are VERY complicated. I mean you can learn to use all the stuffs but that take time, and if with no special purpose it is sort of confusing IMO. Now of course pro photog need many things because of the versatility required by the job (I guess) but otherwise I think you have to figure out what you need, and find the camera which is the best compromise for that.

Speaking of super CCD I think it was promising and do not understand why it was given up. I think Fuji has its own commercial reason for that but some other manufacturers could have push the concept further. I can imagine a 3-photosite single pixel where every photosite is responsible for say 6-7 f-stop. You get a sensor with dynamic range of about 20 f-stop which is I believe the one of film. Fuji was able to have 2 photosites/pixel on a small sensor more than 5 years ago. I believe having 3 on FF pixels (which are bigger) is something logically possible. Don't know about any other constraint though... (again I am no expert).. and of course it has to be a market for that... For me the dynamic range is a key feature, and one for which film is still way better than digital.