hi guys and gals,

I recently changed from a PC to a Mac. Have been reworking some older photos in PS. Very nice results. Makes quite a difference. But I'm having serious problems with uploading the photos on 1x now. Whatever I upload, shows much, much brighter on 1x, basically as if someone went over it with a rough dodge tool. the results look really awful, so I always have to abort the uploads.

I assume this may have to do with the profile ? Adobe RGB and all that. But I don't seem to be able to get the same photo (result) that I saved on my Mac after a lot of work, uploaded on 1x with the same quality, no matter what I do (with the profile).

Could someone tell me what I should do ?

Thank you

I assume you clicked the 'convert to sRGB' check box in the 'save to web' dialogue?
just a thought.

well, generally I don't do the 'save for web' thingie, but I tend to use 'save as'.

when you say , do you mean I should do this, or do you mean I shouldn't ?

Strange!!!!
Do what JBA said... it works for me, using Firefox or Safari.
Do you see your images on a black background on your Mac, when you compare?
Type F: to see them on gray, blue or black background and compare again.

well, I'm now sitting at my bro's Mac, which only has Photoshop elements. And when I open the photo that I want to upload in Photoshop elements and try save for web, there is no 'convert to sRGB' check box :-(

Ben, I work and view against a black bg

Isn't there in elements a possibility > Edit > Convert profile > sRGB ?
That's how I do it sometimes with PS.

Koen HNY! good to see you back!

I have PSE & Mac & have no issue. Go to top menu select image there you can convert colour profile to sRGB!

yes, well, under 'image' (so not under edit). same result though. an additional problem seems that (on my bro's Mac) it makes an enormous difference if I drag the 950 pixel image towards the top or towards the bottom of my screen, even in PS. at the top it basically looks like I want it; at the bottom it looks terribly bright. the screen itself stays in the same position (more or less level, so not tilted backwards or forwards).

edit : hey there gerry :-)

sigh... just tried to upload another one. terrible result when I see the image on 1X. aborted the upload :-(

Is it an new iMac with led-background lighting?
because, I have read there are some problems with the monitors, (also with the previous iMacs) ... could be that!!!!
Maybe, Jacob can explain it better, I believe he has an iMac and knows more about the problems.

When I looked at 1X using an iMac monitor (don't know the model, the one from my father, not the most recent) everything looked awfully bright and overcontrasted as well. And I could not figure out how to tune it correctly (asuming there is a way to do so)

Yes, me too.. I have a dell monitor at work, I'll upload a photo, looks pretty good, come home look at the upload on my imac and it's very contrasty, and blotchy in places. My color photos aren't as effected as Black and White. Makes me nuts! Sorry KoPi, I wish I could tell you how to fix it, I hope this thread helps all of us.

Indeed B+W looked terrible. I was ashamed of all my published pics...:)) Note that I have a Dell monitor too, a very basic old one I got from work for mere MS-Office purpose...

Kopi,
I have the same problem (on a Mac also), and for me it is only at One X. I cannot figure it out. I use Firefox..and I also have Safari. It is a problem on both.

I have tried callibrating my Cinema Display with Huey but it did not look so good. So..I changed the RGB 1998 to Cinema Display in Photoshop. That is a little better. Before uploading..I do edit/profile to be sure it is on sRGB... and then upload the best quality in save for the web.
I have the opposite problem to Pat..my b/w don't look as terrible as colors. I have a matte finish display..not sure what the glossy would show.
I am completely lost. Many pictures I cannot upload at all because when I try to change the color to make it darker..it is then a total mess. :)
So I will follow this thread also...
Kopi..have you tried uploading elsewhere and it is a problem? Also Pat..and the others who have problems here..is it a problem elsewhere. It is frustrating because you think you have it all worked out..it looks good on the monitor...and then the upload...I need sunglasses. Well, not that bad,...but really it looks terrible..so yes please someone help.
What I find myself doing is deleting it and going back and forth...in Photoshop to keep making it darker. With some pictures it works - but with others..not at all.
Phyllis

Probably not calibrated and to clear!!!!

Because the iMac has glass on front the monitor it's more difficult to calibrate, not accurate with f.e. Spider... but, if you go to "screen preferences" >color, it's possible to calibrate it close to "good"!!!!
How to do: Google!!
Your color profile should in the system should also be on Adobe RGB.

The today monitors of iMac the colors are more accurate than the previous LCD versions, certainly as the 20" iMac, it's know the monitor wasn't that good for photography... now the new iMac with "led-backlighting" have some "flickering" and sound problems... apple is working at it.

Honestly, I think, it's better to work for photography, either with an Mac mini and a GOOD monitor or an expensive Power Mac with a Spider calibrated HD Apple Cinema Display 23", I'm very satisfied about it, see what I print and see on sites what I see on the monitor.

So Mac's are not better than PC's???

Yes, probably. But I found surprising that a more recent and much bigger monitor displayed pictures so badly (with what I think were the factory settings) wheras my not calibrated crappy Dell is decent for that purpose. Macs are supposed to be user friendly aren't they ? ;)

We had a similar problem with a user here at 1x. When opening the thumbnail (that looked good) from this user in crew screening the image came up over-over-way-over bright. I think the problem was that the user had some Nikon color profile attached. For some in crew (Nikon users) everything looked great. For the rest of us it looked way of. So in this case the problem was an color profile that some of us did not have that made the difference. It did not matter if we opened it in Firefox or PS.

But if you are looking at it on 1x with on the same computer as edited, this can not be the source of the problem... if you have Firefox color managed that is.

Kopi, Jacques and Phyllis,
Have a look, maybe, some add-ons could be installed in Firefox
http://ferenc.biz/archives/colorzilla-firefox-extension/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6891
but, I think it's also about the calibration of the monitor!!!!

For information: my Apple Cinema Display monitor is set at Gamma 2,2 - WP 65 (idem with the Spider)
if you don't have a Spider or others... do it by> Monitor preferences >Color > Calibrate, there are a lot of possibilities to get close to exact colors and light!!!

What do the pictures on the front page look like? Is everything looking too bright or just your pics?

Dear Jacques,
the standard profile by Mac, is mostly like the name of the monitor or mac.... Adobe RGB, or sRGB is no monitor profile, like I see on most PC's .
First thing to do with a new computer (PC or Mac) is of calibration the monitor with a color profile, that you can save and open again when you want.

Some who work with Office, want to have a clear and contrast setting, others will like to see video's in bright colors, can do it just pushing the contrast/light/color button ... once photography, calibration is a must, with Mac or PC: color management, what is also needed and more complex, when you print the photo's yourself.

If you have a Mac, see my advice in my previous post.

I'm surprised that so many people have no idea of it ... how can they judge or make a good color photo???

Thanks for the insight Ben,

I am aware it has importance but I am myself not very competent for that matter.
I did some checks of my Dell monitors with on-line tools - though I guess they are far from being very reliable. Also I would compare what I see of pictures from others compared to mine (if I pick one that has a tonel range close to what I want for a specific picture). And finally I can compare with prints. All of this is not very accurate nor "scientific" but with experience and time I think I finally know more or less intuitively the gear I use and I can work... I mean I am not in complete blindness for that purpose. It is just like my 1MB RAM that makes the whole think often block whan I work on photo.... Now I am used to it !... :) ... oh well I am thinking of upgrading though... :))... (I have do it quickly for many reasons)

thanks for responding. I'm sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, but I don't have an internet connection at our new home yet. I will have another look and see what I can do, with the advice above at hand.

Koen you're back!!!

How is the reverse culture shock going?

I am suffering it now too and I am only back for 2 months. :-s

trying to cope Richard :-)
some things great, but really lost (losing) a lot of time getting really settled (still no internet, and so on, and so on)