Since yesterday the tab "Following" does not show the most recent work from people I follow.

I see a mix of older and freshly published work.

Is this a bug?

 

I'm having the same problem

 

The newest photos are missing. I saw several new uploads of the photographers I follow in curation, but not on my page.

Hi,

I've passed this on to Management.

Thanks,

Leigh

1x Head Moderator

Hello,

 

The following feature is now only showing published photos. This is to avoid that you get too many notifications.

 

Kind regards

Thomas

Hello Thomas,

 

I don't understand, I never receive "notifications" in the following feature. The advantage is you can see work of the people you follow, independently if published or not. Some of the people I follow do show only published photos in their portfolio, so now there is no way to have a look at new work (unless you discover it by accident in the curation process).

 

Maybe there is a good technical reason to make that change, otherwise I would advise to return to the former situation. As it is now it is a step back in the service 1X offers to it's members.

 

Kind regards,

Luc

 

 

Hi Thomas,

I fully agree with Luc. It would indeed be a set back if we can't see all the photos of those we follow. Often the non published photos are as interesting as the published ones.

 

By the way, Thomas, perhaps you mean by " notification" the thumbnails one sees when opening the "following" page. Well, that page is easy to scroll and never too long.

 

Kind regards, Susanne.

 

Thomas

 

I think this is a terrible restriction. The reason I follow people is to see all their work, published or not, because I like their work. Having 1X "curate" what I can and can't see for the people I follow is very unhelpful. I never received any notifications for people I followed anyway, so I don't know what problem you are trying to solve by making this change.

 

If I didn't want to see a member's photos unless they are published, I could just stop following them. By making this change you give me no way to actually "follow" a photographer's work. I agree with Luc - this is a step backwards, and I believe you should return this feature to the way it previously worked.

 

 

I fully agree , I don't understand the purpose of just letting me see the published photos.

This is a major step backwards of the site.

Hello,

 

For the same reasons I fully agree with Jarl, Paul, Susanne and Luc.

I hope we meet again soon the previous functionality.

 

Regards, JAC

 

This is very presumptive and unusual step for a creative community. I enjoy, and learn from, the artists I follow. Having my experience restricted to the results of the subjective selection of the day process is discouraging.

Hi All,

I have passed this on to Management.

Leigh

1x Head Moderator

P.S. I also happen to agree.

Thanks a lot Leigh

There are several benefits with this change. Most importantly we are focusing on raising the quality on all parts of the site which means more curation. 1x is a curated site and should be synonymous with curation. We want to make this concept more clear.

 

By only showing published works the following queue gets a lot less cluttered. Sometimes I see 10 new photos in a row in the following queue which are not even sent to curation. This means there is a great risk of missing their published works which tend to get lost in a sea of pictures.

 

With less photos in the following queue published photos will get more comments and views than today.

 

The following queue will be much more useful to keep track of published photos by your favorite photographers. The front page is more difficult because it requires a lot of scrolling to make sure you haven't missed anything if you have not been online for a few days. Same thing with the following queue, you will much more quickly and with much less scrolling than today gain an overview of the latest published photos by your favorite photographers.

 

Statistics show that a lot of users have lost interest in the following page, likely because there are so many photos there that they are not so interested in. This change will raise the quality a lot, make the queue more interesting and make it easier to keep track of curated works by your favorite photographers which is what 1x is for.

 

Good light, Ralf

 

That sounds logical. And if someone is really interested in all works by the members he/she follows (also the non published and those which were not sent to curation) he/she has the option to go to their profiles.

 

In my opinion a step in the right direction to raise quality of displayed images.

 

Cheers, Hans-Martin

 

Personally, I'm not at all interested in having someone else select for me what work from photographers I follow that I should see. I'm willing to scroll through a few pages. Effectively, you have taken away the ability to easily follow photographers' work. In my opinion, curation is what makes 1X special, but preventing members from seeing anything but curated views detracts from the appeal of the site. And if i ever had too many photographs on the "following" page that I wasn't interested in, I could just stop following those photographers.

 

Perhaps you should poll your members once in a while about their preferences before making a change like this - maybe poll some who actively follow others, and some who see to have lost interest in following. It is possible that your understanding of what people are thinking is not accurate.

 

Hi Ralf,

This is exactly as I remember it not long after I joined lx. I loved this feature for many of l the reasons you have mentioned.

 

At that point though I was only following about 50 people. So this feature was special. Indeed this is how I made many friends at 1x. The following's came up on the side of the page and I could immediately see when I signed on who had been published that day.

 

It was quite exciting!

 

I could easily congratulate them, leave a comment and then they would write back ..and after a while the comments got longer and I found a community here.

 

I am happy to see this featured returned. I have missed so many publications over the last year for lack of time to open every single photo every day.

 

So, I would have to say that I am happy with this change. For me it is not about only wanting to see Curated photos because I can do that by visiting the Front Page...Rather it is about have a special group of photographers whose work i truly admire and being able to view their publications easily.

 

Thank you,

Phyllis

 

I fully agree with Paul Cunningham. I am not interested to see choices of other persons, subjective choices.

I think there is a bit confusion now in 1x ........

anyway I can see all works of "my following"............

Cheers

Giorgio

Thank you, Ralf and Phyllis, for your clear and thoughtful explanations.

I did not understand why the feature was there and therefore was misusing it.

 

 

I completely agree with Paul, elias and Giorgio.

I very much like to see the new and the non published photos of those I follow. Not being published doesn't mean less quality or less interesting. Judging photos is a matter of taste and it is very possible that I like a non published photo more than the published one.

 

Cheers, Susanne

Dear Ralf,

 

Thanks for your clarification.

 

Of course the queue will be less cluttered when only published photos are shown.

I think this could be easily avoided by setting a time limit on the the following feature. There is no need to show photos from one year ago in the following feature. If you have not consulted the following feature at least once a month I do not see the point of following someones work.

 

But there is certainly a demand to see ALL NEW WORK from people we follow. A number of people I follow do not show their new work in their portfolio, only the published ones.

 

I cannot remember having seen "10 new photos row in the following queue which are not even sent to curation". If this is really a problem I would advise to come back on the rule that every uploaded photo goes to curation or monthly theme right away. That was a good decision, 1X is a curated site.

 

Kind regards,

Luc

 

Hi

I would want to express my point of view. My pleasure is to see easily and simply the photos of persons I decide to follow. To see only photos that are published is not a choice I recommend. It's a bad point if you want to support an active community.

Regards

 

Michel

Hi Michel

 

Would read the explanation Ralf gave and makes sense for what we are trying to accomplish, regarding seeing curated images.

 

There is a simple way, which I use, for seeing anyone's images published or not. Just go to the profile and look a the gallery, all are there. Not much of an inconvenience.

 

al

Head Senior Critic

 

Sorry, Al, but I don't agree. If you follow a number of people, going to each person's page individually and clicking on their Portfolio tab to see if there is anything new is a lot less convenient than clicking one Following tab under the Photos page. And I have to say, it isn't clear to me what 1X is trying to accomplish. Clearly, the fact that 1X is a curated site is its strength, but I don't see why 1X would make changes that make it more difficult for members to see each other's unpublished work. If you don't want to see a person's work, you don't have to follow them. But now, if you want to see the work of a number of members whether published or not, there is no convenient way to do it. I can't see how this change makes 1X more attractive to paying members. I respect the work of the curators, but I don't like having them make it difficult for me to see work that I want to see. I don't know if I am in the minority here, but obviously there are other members who share my view.

I fully share Paul's view. The display of only published images from members I follow allows to see their recent work only under the condition that they regularly have published images or I know the names of all members I follow (which I don't) and remember to view their portfolio.

 

The change in the following tab actually prevents me from continuing to follow those I once chose to follow.

 

Let's take Paul's portfolio as an example: I chose to follow Paul not so much for his bird shots but for his other work like architecture or nature shots. As long as Paul has no new published image I practically don't get to see his work.

Isn't it possible to have both? Following > published images, and Following > all images?

Hi

To have both as said by Leonie would be nice. But if there is no possibility to have both I prefer to see photographies of persons I follow. Yes, 1x is a curated site but persons who are not published are also a very great value. When I open 1x the front page is clear and it is easy to see the published photos. Most of time popular photographies are also the same as the latest.

The "Following" tab does not only show photo that have been published, it also show pictures of people you follow that are GOING to be published!

hahhaa, no more surprises :))

 

I don't know why you're laughing, Leonie. Jeroen is completely right. Just had a look in my following flow, apparently one image from a photographer I follow has been positively curated by the official curators but not yet published. The image appears in my flow and will be published in a few days. The image is in the pipeline for publishing.

Cheers, Hans-Martin

I'm laughing because I think it's funny, but maybe I am the only one.

 

 

It is indeed funny, if not ironic, that your follower knows that your picture will be published while you yourself have still to wait for the notification.

 

That is ironic. I had missed the irony until you pointed it out.

 

Indeed no more surprises .... I learned the trick long time ago from a very very senior member .... :-))

In my following tab, the latest pictures of members I follow are not published (yet). They are lacking the 1x flag

I think there might be some who have misunderstood what 1x is. As 1x declares the site is “the world's biggest curated photo gallery online. Each photo is selected by professional curators”.

 

1x does not really want to show pictures which have not been chosen by the curators; even the photos on the group galleries are selected by the group managers. Ralf said above “Most importantly we are focusing on raising the quality on all parts of the site” and that the change to show only the published images under the Follow-Tab “will raise the quality a lot and make the queue more interesting”. In another topic Ralf wrote “Photos which you don't think yourself would fit on the front page of 1x should not be uploaded, except when sending to critique”.

 

Those statements can be understood in many ways but my own interpretation is that 1x considers the non-published photos to be lower standard and not worth showing. I delete all my non-published images after a certain period of time as I don’t want anyone to think the pictures to be somehow inferior in comparison to those on the FP. I know there are many who share my opinion about the quality because they either follow me or have marked an image as a favorite and I’ and I am also aware of the fact that I’m not acting quite fairly towards these friends. Yet my images are just too dear to me to be considered second class. If they are not selected here I’ll present them somewhere else.

 

My only wish for 1x is to better notify its members about the site modifications and the reasons behind them.

 

Informing should precede explaining.

 

Kind regards,

Timo

 

Based on response from curators, staff, and photographers, the "Follow" function is one tool being used in two different ways. The change that was made reflects feedback from staff and curators.

I take this to mean that staff/curators is who the tool "Followers" was for.

Probably the technology does not exist for a tool for each.

 

 

Dear Al,

 

I hope you have somewhere a list of people you follow to "go just to the profile and look at the gallery" ... or you have a fabulous memory :-))

 

Personally I do not have such a list (nor the memory capacity) and there is no way in tracing it on the site. In our profile pages we have a list of FOLLOWERS, that's nice, the other way round would solve the problem of easy acces to ALL THE WORK of people we follow.

 

Luc

 

As a member who joined 1X in 2013 (6 years after the start in 2007) I have not experienced the time when all non-published images were deleted from the database. No single non-published image could be seen anywhere at 1X.

 

Those were the days when an image of extraordinary quality received between 50,000 and 100,000 clicks. Yes, you read right, between fifty thousand and hundred thousand clicks. (Nowadays a published image gets between 1.000 and 2.000 clicks, sometimes less than 1.000).

 

The procedure of deleting non-published images was changed after a few years, after the change also the non-published photos were visible in the member's profile. So far, so good.

 

The quality range of non-published images is wide, it ranges from excellent to poor.

 

Maybe a concentration on published images in all areas will lead to increasing quality of 1X. At least I hope so.

 

Coming back to the "following"-theme: I have about 250 followers, not very much but there are member's with less than 250 followers. The comments on my non-published images can be count on the fingers of one hand. And I don't mean a single non-published image but my total non-published images. So this might mean that my 250 followers are not very interested in my photos at least in my non-published. Although the quality of some non-published is much better than the quality of the published (rejection only due to similarity of the motifs). But why do the 250 members follow me when they don't leave a comment on the non-published ? I really don't know.

 

And when I have a look at the published images by other members, most of all (more than 95%) don't get a single comment before publishing.

 

So, I doubt that there is a great interest in following other members, otherwise their images would be commented even before they get published !

 

Wish you all a merry Xmas and a Happy New Year !

 

Cheers, Hans-Martin

 

Hi Luc

 

....... I don't have either !!!!!!! ... your right about that.

 

al

 

Hello Hans,

 

in my case it's simple since has so far none of my photos have been published.

I do not have a lot of followers compared to many other members, particularly those who have extraordinary portfolios with a lot of published photos.

I really appreciate when some of them write a comment or just add one of my pictures to their favorites.

I'm french and it's well known that a lot of french people doesn't speak (and write) english very well. I'm not an exception. It's really a tough work for me to write a comment in english on a photo (especially in the curation process for which 1x wants at least 100 characters) , so the more often I prefer show my feeling by adding it to my favorites.

 

Regards, JAC

Hello,

 

 

 

 

I agree with this comments.

 

Regards, JAC

 

 

I agree with Luc

 

+ 1

 

Nice idea !

 

 

This is also true for some published images. I don't think that the decline in the number of clicks for published images or the decline in interest in 1x overall has primarily to do with the showing of non-published images.

 

I don't see a contradiction between following and non-commenting other members' work. The following tab is an easy way to remember and find again the portfolio of someone who's style you like or find interesting. That is all, but considering the mass of members and pictures on 1x it is quite a lot.

 

I think the owners of 1x are approaching the crossroad where they have to decide between an elitist approach with having only excellent quality (i.e. members with at least 50 or more published pictures / year and other exclusive criteria) but much less members, or beeing a forum for many more like it has been in the past two years.