The worst ???

But, Biliana, you have great photos in photo.net ... ! :s

Please don´t stop trying ! :-)

Yes,I have seen your photos,very impressive work!Probably your photos are rejected for the same reason as mine!No 1x material!But you are a very,very good artist!

Biliana,

you have to decide to quit or not. It depends how important it is for you to have images published here at 1X.

Don't ask why images are rejected or not. This will cause a new discussion about the 1X screening system ... and that is not wanted by the founders (so, you will see, this thread will be closed / deleted very soon).

You have GREAT images at photo.net. Your'e NOT the worst ... surely not.

Peter

Now I'm curious to see Biliana's pictures....link?

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http://photo.net/photos/Biliana this is the link!!

just bare it and keep trying

PS Because of 1x I'm finally learning to look at my images and separate my subjective connection to them. That impact on your psyche by your own images is mixed with aspects that others could never understand. Those aspects you must learn to not see.

I also find that intense studying of 1x images helps me get the 'feel' 1x is looking for. Then I go out and pre-visualize when I shoot. This seems to help.

PS Because of 1x I'm finally learning to look at my images and separate my subjective connection to them. That impact on your psyche by your own images is mixed with aspects that others could never understand. Those aspects you must learn to not see.

I also find that intense studying of 1x images helps me get the 'feel' 1x is looking for. Then I go out and pre-visualize when I shoot. This seems to help.

All of my photos have been rejected as well. I'm not bothered to be honest. The rejections didn't kill me...and those that didn't kill me only made me stronger. I still frequently visit 1x for the enjoyment of browsing through the works of other brilliant photographers. Maybe it's not yet my time to shine. Everytime I look at the magnificent collection here it makes me aim higher. I may not be able to get one of my shots in the gallery but at least I had fun.

Not only does a photo being rejected not mean it's bad, but for that matter being accepted does not mean it's good. It just means it "fits" with what is wanted. I have seen what I thought were fantastic images rejected and what I thought were terrible images accepted. Obviously those who happened to decide disagreed with me in those cases. That's all.

Amen!

I will not say what others have said, but I agree 100% - 1x.com is not a religion! What I suggest doing it STOP submitting photographs for publishing and instead try submitting them for critique, but not when they are rejected. Try to connect with the viewer and use the critique section is the audience to discuss you photograph. Explain what you wanted to achieve and suggest what you think you have succeeded with your goal. Other people will respond and they will show you good and bad side of the photograph. Sometimes you will agree, sometime you will not, but this is going to help you seeing your photographs differently.

What you will see that you really have this special photograph and you have discovered weaknesses and corrected them, try submitting for publishing.

Use 1x.com as your audience and gain experience by talking to people about your images. That is why I am doing. I have one photograph rejected 2 times, but was also suggested that it can be improved and I did improve it. Now it looks awesome and it is published, but even if it was not.....I would still be happy:-)

Not a religion,but a drug!!!!

Not a religion,but a drug!!!!

Not only does a photo being rejected not mean it's bad, but for that matter being accepted does not mean it's good. It just means it "fits" with what is wanted. I have seen what I thought were fantastic images rejected and what I thought were terrible images accepted. Obviously those who happened to decide disagreed with me in those cases. That's all.

Now I'm curious to see Biliana's pictures....link?
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Great stuffs.

Biliana we all share the same pain. just bare it and keep trying, don't let it put you down. great stuff you got there..
sorry for going a bit off topic- would anyone mind telling me why there is no complaint part of the forum or something like that? for example, my photo's been in screening for 3 days now and if i want to see it in screening it says the photo is not available that it has been either rejected or published. and it has not! it's probably going to be rejected without a reason or comment again.

Biliana, can you top 42 consecutive rejections? :)

Biliana,
I just visit your works by Photo Net.
Nothing wrong with your pictures, they are amazing.
For sure you got talent.
About the rejection I have no explaination.

I agree, (as so should you) with those that tell you to shoot for yourself and NOT 1x. I've had a quick glance through your folio and you are very creative with an exceptional eye for a visually interesting image. I saw one called At An Exhibition that would fit well with the 1x style I imagine. (now you will tell me it's already been rejected heh) In which case I would say the image is fine, but the technical quality might not be high enough. 1x are pretty hot in that area. (usually but not always). Overall (and only IMHO) I would say that your images are very creative but the quality is a little variable. That would be the area to concentrate on improving I imagine. Don't lose heart, it's a long road, you're a good creative photographer!

Hello Biliana,
Agree with Balazs and Alex! Do not think much please you have an amazing portfolio. Do not give up please!

Robert

I had a look at your photos at photo.net. Lots of good ones, but some seem to lack a little in post processing. Imo, that is the part you need to look at.
It is not like looking for a 1x style. Look at the photos at 1x, and you find lots of different "styles". Continue working on your own style!

Dear Biliana,
I see 1x as a challenge, like a photo-contest, even when I have an enormous number of rejections ( winners on contests),
only they don't "fit" here, like they wouldn't "some" contests.

Don't change style, you are good:-))
So, I understand your frustration!!

Yeah, poor Kevin!

Or a cult. . . ;-)

rejections make you question your work for a while, then, after a while, you just shrug and carry on doing what you enjoy and find satisfaction in. I submit the odd pic now and then if I think it might 'fit in' or because i think it ought to ;-) otherwise I don't bother.

I am beginning to question my desire for affirmation from various photo forums and the like. If I was confident in what I am doing I shouldn't feel the need (?)

Jon

Biliana,
if u want, keep posting photos each week, and then forget them.
Having photo here doesn't make you earn money or immediate fame, or something else...

We all have our path in photography, and 1x could be just a marginal part, a joke, a whim...

I bought the 1x book, I have tons of "unfortunately" rejected, I keep visiting this site, that's all. :)

Just stay focused on 'How compelling are my images?" I apologize if I seem 1x obsessed... believe me, I'm absolutely not. I shoot for myself only. If others like my work.... that's good. If not, so what. It is just that the 1x venue is the most unique and powerful I've even found on the net. It is causing me to re-examine... as it should.

Yes, sure.

Of course a photo being rejected does not mean it is bad. 1X has its own standards, with regards to motifs, quality, aesthetic etc... Lots of trilling photographic works out there just do not fit with that, and furthermore I believe that many famous and acclaimed photographers would have most of their work rejected if submitted anonymously.

Now even if it is difficult to say what 1X material is from a general level I feel that after a while (and under the condition that some of your pics are published) you find out what works for 1X and what doesn't work in what you are doing. At least it does for me.

Biliana,
If being published here is very important for you (nothing wrong with that, I guess it's more or less important for every people frequenting this forum..;)) then I suggest you take more time to select the pic you submit - considering that blue membership provide you with few slots.

Having some other people around could help... first consider the genre that other people think you are the best at - could be not the one you prefer. Then ask what are the pics that have the more "impact", there are probably some that stand out more than others for that. Then consider the technical quality and composition. Technical quality has to be considered together with the genre you submit. It is much higher for Still Life or studio stuffs than for Street (mere example). Also I believe that quirky and/or unbalanced compositions are more risky - even if they are good.

This can't be 100% warranty of publication for sure but it can helps though. just my $0.02

If rejections matters I am the worst. I bet.
I stopped counting rejections. Sometimes gets me down, sometimes I post them to critique and I understand, sometimes not...

I am a newbie( a year or so, at least seriously) 1x is the best site to learn and enhance your creative abilities and find your path as photographer. So, I will not quit. You should not quit also with this portfolio.

All the best!!

aving some other people around could help... first consider the genre that other people think you are the best at

This is very good: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dtmateojr/4267851165/sizes/o/ without borders!

I am trying to improve in all photographic fields :) but my portraits are my best!

Now that everybody told you how good and talented you are...

hey by the way you could make a good editor, or a good screener ;)

Now that everybody told you how good and talented you are... Your portraits show good communication skills (model instructions), empathy and creativity. However, I think your best stuff is experimental macro. Because in my opinion your people shots are of mixed quality, ranging from excellent over so-so to cheesy. Not every photograph in your water, drop, sinalco and marble series is a perfect piece of art, but their quality and aesthetics is much more balanced than your people portfolios. You should select more carefully what you publish. You have almost 1500 photos overall in your portfolio - are you sure about all of them?
To me it seems that the closer you get to your subject, the better you are. Because your close-up macros are excellent, people shots mixed, and landscapes/cityscapes... well, to put it this way, definitely not 1X stuff.
What I miss from your people portfolios is coherence. For instance, in your Feelings & emotions series, the style of the individual pictures is so different (and frankly, sometimes very badly edited) that if I view them as a slide show I can't see a connection between the photos apart from the subject (children). OK, portfolios can show how good we are at presenting the same subject in a different style and approach but this only works if these different styles are equally good. Adding some photos of lesser quality just for having a big portfolio does more harm than good.

When you put a portfolio together, it is usually a tremendous advantage if you use the same format and focal length. That gives coherence and makes a portfolio or series much more powerful. And coherence is something very much favored by 1X screeners. For example, if you look at the portfolios of the big shots (just look at the first page of the artists' list) you'll see that their photographs form a coherent collection. If you check up Robert Hutinski, who has probably the most photos published on 1X (I might be wrong here), you'll see that he photographs almost everything that moves but his style and approach is always very similar for a certain subject (such as street portraits, for example).

You also try different editing on the same subject. That's cool, keep on trying, but sooner or later you have to find the editing that's your trade-mark, that fits best to your artistic approach and stick with it. Look at Ed Carlile, Mitchell Kanashkevitch, Codrin Lupei, Daria Endresen, Julien Legrand, Edd Gooseens, kenp, Robert, Andre du Plessis for an example (I could mention many many more).

Just an opinion...

Now that everybody told you how good and talented you are... Your portraits show good communication skills (model instructions), empathy and creativity. However, I think your best stuff is experimental macro. Because in my opinion your people shots are of mixed quality, ranging from excellent over so-so to cheesy. Not every photograph in your water, drop, sinalco and marble series is a perfect piece of art, but their quality and aesthetics is much more balanced than your people portfolios. You should select more carefully what you publish. You have almost 1500 photos overall in your portfolio - are you sure about all of them?
To me it seems that the closer you get to your subject, the better you are. Because your close-up macros are excellent, people shots mixed, and landscapes/cityscapes... well, to put it this way, definitely not 1X stuff.
What I miss from your people portfolios is coherence. For instance, in your Feelings & emotions series, the style of the individual pictures is so different (and frankly, sometimes very badly edited) that if I view them as a slide show I can't see a connection between the photos apart from the subject (children). OK, portfolios can show how good we are at presenting the same subject in a different style and approach but this only works if these different styles are equally good. Adding some photos of lesser quality just for having a big portfolio does more harm than good.

When you put a portfolio together, it is usually a tremendous advantage if you use the same format and focal length. That gives coherence and makes a portfolio or series much more powerful. And coherence is something very much favored by 1X screeners. For example, if you look at the portfolios of the big shots (just look at the first page of the artists' list) you'll see that their photographs form a coherent collection. If you check up Robert Hutinski, who has probably the most photos published on 1X (I might be wrong here), you'll see that he photographs almost everything that moves but his style and approach is always very similar for a certain subject (such as street portraits, for example).

You also try different editing on the same subject. That's cool, keep on trying, but sooner or later you have to find the editing that's your trade-mark, that fits best to your artistic approach and stick with it. Look at Ed Carlile, Mitchell Kanashkevitch, Codrin Lupei, Daria Endresen, Julien Legrand, Edd Gooseens, kenp, Robert, Andre du Plessis for an example (I could mention many many more).

Just an opinion...

If you check up Robert Hutinski, who has probably the most photos published on 1X (I might be wrong here)

don't you dare say goodbye my friend!!

Muppet show, Balazs...

Like some one said what you do you get from such validation ? Will you be able to sell any work based on exposure at 1x ? Do you become famous ? Nada.

it is better to just have fun and keep posting for the heck of it and not let you stop you doing what gives you so much pleasure.

So keep on doing what makes you happy and not let this desire to get published at 1x influence your work or your own self esteem.

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You simply have to be patient, and it will happen. As Balazs correctly pointed out, it is tricky and very challenging to be good at many genre's of this. Actually impossible. Keep on submitting work that is truly of your own choice, and in doing so things will filter out naturally.
Andre

Now that everybody told you how good and talented you are...
Your portraits show good communication skills (model instructions), empathy and creativity.
However, I think your best stuff is experimental macro.
Because in my opinion your people shots are of mixed quality, ranging from excellent over so-so to cheesy.
Not every photograph in your water, drop, sinalco and marble series is a perfect piece of art, but their quality and aesthetics is much more balanced than your people portfolios. You should select more carefully what you publish.
You have almost 1500 photos overall in your portfolio - are you sure about all of them?
To me it seems that the closer you get to your subject, the better you are. Because your close-up macros are excellent, people shots mixed, and landscapes/cityscapes... well, to put it this way, definitely not 1X stuff.
What I miss from your people portfolios is coherence.

.

Hi Biliana.....see what I mean:):)
Thank you Balazs for your honest and thoroughly objective assistance in this regard.

I too have to applaud Balazs & agree with everything he writes on this occasion I just could not be so erudite & so sensitively forthright & in a language that is not (I am guessing) his mother tongue!

Biliana for me there are so many images in your portfolio I really couldn't find the will to put any time into looking carefully as I was frankly overpowered at the prospect. But I am certain your skills will eventually surface in the form of a publication take courage from all of us who at one stage or another (I speak for myself in truth) have felt mightily despondent watching the rejections pile up. Take it from me its not about good or bad right or wrong either the cream eventually rises to the surface!

Hi Biliana,

Worst photographer in the world... you are not the only one claiming this title... the competition is tough... but I don't think you qualify in this challenge!

Great post Balazs!


Robert H comes in second place when it comes to number of published images. Fernand Hick is the numero uno. :-)

Thomas: thanks for the correction.



I do, partly at least - I let my bronze membership expire and in 88 days resume the role of the two cynical old farts in Sesame Street.

I'm really sorry, Biliana, about going totally off-topic here.

Frankly, I don't have much to add here. I visited your pictures at photo.net and really enjoyed the visit! Hope to see them here as well.

OK......many things were said.....but I can't hide it anymore. I was keeping this secret for very long, but.....I need to say it. The WORST photographer ever is me!

No,it is me,because I have over 600 rejected,and I am very proud for that!He he!!

You know Lucian, there are some US English colloquialisms or Americanisms or whatever that keep coming to my mind but there is rarely any situation when I could use them properly. Now there is one and I take extra great pleasure in telling you:
Over 600 rejected? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN ME.

No,it is me,because I have over 600 rejected,and I am very proud for that!He he!!

No,it is me,because I have over 600 rejected,and I am very proud for that!He he!!

Take it from me its not about good or bad right or wrong either the cream eventually rises to the surface!

I let my bronze membership expire

hey by the way you could make a good editor, or a good screener ;)

If you are an American from NYC quantity comes in small and tons...a bit extreme I know. Then we have one word to sum it up..it would sound like this..
I have tons and tons of rejections so Forgetaboutit! :))))

Wouldn't folks usually associated with expressions like "forgetaboutit" just pay the screeners a visit and make them an offer they can't refuse? :))

Was it before or after you managed to have pics published ?
Because if it is before that means you finally lost your style but if it's after that could mean you found it :))))

Maybe.:))) But if I answered your question you then I would have to kill you. :) Kidding. Well, if you are from Brooklyn, or Little Italy yes..maybe you could get a visit from the uncle.

And yes Skidzam is correct in how he/she has written it. Perfect actually. I see he/she is from Long Island (branch offices).

Just for you Mr. B..
a picture of a sign when you leave Brooklyn..
http://blogs.msdn.com/photos/priozersk/images/4566197/original.aspx

Oh one last thought people who are associated with the expression are not usually referred to as 'folks'...Folks live in the Mid West..or where I live now..nice folks.:)))

and make some publishable pictures

And the initial question was (correspondingly): how can I do that? ;-)

No,it is me,because I have over 600 rejected,and I am very proud for that!He he!!

You know Lucian, there are some US English colloquialisms or Americanisms or whatever that keep coming to my mind but there is rarely any situation when I could use them properly. Now there is one and I take extra great pleasure in telling you:
Over 600 rejected? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN ME.

I don't have time to make jokes,because everything I upload is rejected like trash! 2% accepted!

I don't have time to make jokes,because everything I upload is rejected like trash! 2% accepted!

Get over it Lucian - at least you have a day job that allows for artistic expression - I sit and play with numbers all day long!! :)

And coherence is something very much favored by 1X screeners.

Just curious



Mr. B.

Do you really know screeners prefer coherence, and evolution in an artist or simply publish an image that fits int this moment whatever the evolution or coherence is...

This is a very good point... I would like to know the screeners opinion about.

Yes dear Miguel good point :) as I can see, viewing all those beautiful Portofolios of our Members, there is always COHERENCE in their Portofolios, so I presume, really presume, that the screeners are looking for coherence, but kinda strange, as the screening is anonymous !?! but ... I think that after sometime, a screener can recognize the style of some of us :) well still waiting for screeners to say something :)

Thank You

This may not help, but most of my best work gets rejected on 1x. The rest seems to get accepted. go figure.

- Hunter, hunter, I think you're here to suck.

LOL

So, We need to suck to be published?

This may not help, but most of my best work gets rejected on 1x. The rest seems to get accepted. go figure.

Shall I quit to try cause I am the WORST PHotographer?